Guest Review - Local Public Eatery - The Press Burger

Place:  Local Public Eatery.

Where: 171 East Liberty Street, Unit 100. Liberty Village, Toronto

Type: Chain

Web Site: localpubliceatery.com

Ambience:  Sort-of modern industrial.

Burger:  The Press Burger with Cheese.

Type of Cheese: Cheddar.

Pricing:  Burger and fries for $14.50, which isn't bad for Liberty Village.

THE PLACE

Like the inside of an old factory or warehouse.  Exposed ceiling, brick, wood and leather.  Classic Rock radio in the background, not too loud.  Attractive young wait staff in jeans & t-shirt uniforms.

 THE BURGER

A handmade patty on a bun baked in-house, topped with three-year old cheddar.  Lettuce, tomato, onion, pickle garnish.  Mustard and miso mayo condiments.  Served with fries.

Tasty burger.  The patty was firm and juicy, well done (no pink) with just a smidge of char at the edge.  The bun was very nice, not to much bread, and perfectly sized for the patty.  All the garnish was fresh and crisp.  The best part was the cheese, a thick slice of cheddar with just a little of the sharp tang you get from aging,

Perhaps the best thing about the burger was the balance of everything.  A near perfect ratio of bun-meat-cheese-garnish was achieved.  And the bun held everything together so that even the last bite was a complete burger experience.

The rest... prefab fries and store-bought ketchup were, you know, fine.  Nicely presented in a little tin bucket and side ketchup salver.  Whatever.

All in all, liked it, would have again.  This burger is not the taste-explosion experience that some places offer, but it's a good, well-made burger at a reasonable (for the neighbourhood) price.

FOLLOW UP

Went back for the first time today, ordered the same burger.  This one completely fell apart on me.  Grease all over my fingers, couldn't take a proper bite without dripping all over myself or the table.  Tried three or four bites, finally gave up and was going to ask for some cutlery (I know, cutlery with a burger, but there was no other way) and the staff had decided to hold a 'meeting' and was nowhere to be found.  A meeting at 12:30 on a weekday in the middle of a business area.  Loads of people at tables and at the bar, and all the staff... gone.

Couldn't have had two more different experiences.

Cheeseburger's in the news

Here is something that may surprise you, but Cheeseburgers are in the new an awful lot. I think it's just proof of its superiority as a food. Well your friendly neighborhood Cheeseburger Hunter feels it is his duty to keep everyone abreast of the world of Cheeseburgers, so here is all of the cheeseburger news from the last few months.

- A lucky man finds $20 inside of his cheeseburger. Link 

- Australian man dies while trying to eat a whole cheeseburger in one bite. Link

- Florida man shoots brother over cheeseburger. Link

- A man orders a plain cheeseburger, calls the news when he gets something different. Link

(Btw: I've gotten a cheeseburger with no meat and I didn't call the news.)

- Singer Britney Spears likes a good cheeseburger from time to time. Link 

- Model Gigi Hadid chows down on a cheeseburger on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Link

 

- Will a $9.99 cheeseburger save Disneyworld? (Of course it will, cheeseburgers are awesome that way.) Link 

- For some reason Shake Shack didn't already have a bacon cheeseburger. Link

- Cheeseburgers are good, and they are doing good. Link 

- Dietitian, nutritionist tries to ruin things for everyone. Link 

- Someone names Stephanie Pratt likes the odd cheeseburger. Link

- And finally, idiot changes his name to "Bacon Double Cheeseburger" for idiotic reasons. Link

A&W - Mama Burger with Cheese - Bramalea City Center

The place: A&W

Location: Bramalea City Center food court.

Type: Chain restaurant. 

Web site: awrestaurants.com 

Atmosphere: Orange and brown food court chic. 

The Burger: Mama burger with cheese

#of Pattys: 1

Special Sauce?: Yes (Mayo)

Toppings: Ketchup, mustard

THE PLACE

Growing up, A&W was known for its root beer first and its food second but recently (in the cosmic scheme of things) they've been talking a lot about how good their food is and what great ingredients they use, using as their spokesman someone who looks like he eats at a burger place.

This A&W is in a food court. It has all the things food courts have. Yelling children, tables you are pretty sure haven't been washed in some time and that one guy who wears sunglasses inside and sits back in such a way that he obviously thinks he's mere seconds away from being surrounded by gorgeous women. 

Also A&W's color scheme is orange and brown, which is not attractive at all.

THE BURGER

 

The first problem I had was they don't really have a "cheeseburger" per se. They name their burgers after members of the imaginary Burger family (Mama Burger, Papa Burger etc. There is no Grandma Burger because screw her). The closest they have to a cheeseburger is the Teen Burger,, which comes with cheese and bacon. I wasn't really in the mood for bacon so I went of the Mama Burger with cheese.

The first thing that strikes you about the above picture might be how nice the fries look. I know that's where my eyes went. Perhaps you noticed the burger just sitting there looking like a half finished Muppet head. You certainly don't look at the burger and say "Wow, I must eat that." 

The burger to bun ratio is terrible, making it look like two buns with red and white paste on it rather than a burger, cheese or otherwise. The cheese was nicely melted but not completely. The patty had a nice, but not a great, taste. The special sauce (mayo) added nothing to the burger. Basically as far as taste goes, it is a nice, middle of the road burger that looks maybe, kinda ok, I guess. 

The fries were really good though, but this isn't French Fry hunter.

So what do you give a middle of the road burger? A middle of the road rating that loses points on presentation.

Rating: 2.0 out of 5.

 

John's Family Restaurant - Cheeseburger

Place: John's Family Restaurant

Location: 1 Fisherman Dr, Brampton

Type: Independant

Atmosphere: Family Style Restaurant

Burger: Cheeseburger

#of Patty's: 1

Cheese: Cheddar 

THE PLACE

John's is a relatively new family style restaurant that is brown. Very, very brown. And grey. Anything that isn't brown is grey. Brown, grey and faux wood. It's amazing how brown and grey and faux wood this place is. It's almost as if whoever owns this place just couldn't figure out the colors they wanted and just said the first two colors that came to head and, once it was out there, became very dedicated to it.

Also when we ordered our drinks we were brought a can of iced tea and a glass. I don't know what that was about but there was someting not right about that. But we went in around 1:30 pm on a week day and the place was really busy, so there must be something great here.

THE BURGER

 

Let's start with the top, literally. The bun was weak, barely toasted, and my fingers crushed it immediately just with regular holding. Not a good start. Fortunately there was a nice hunk of cheese. The patty tasted pretty good, not fantastic mind you, just pretty good. It was well cooked and a little juicy. It had all the right smells and all the right tastes. The meat didn't overpower the cheese, the cheese didn't overpower the meat, it was just the right balance.

One thing I really liked was that the patty did not have that "frozen meat" taste that your average big chain burger has. It tasted freshly made, which was nice. 

This was definitely a better than average cheeseburger, but not too above average. Good, but not over the moon good.  It's a shame the bun was so distractingly weak, it really took away from the whole experience.

The fries were stringy and a little over done for my tastes, but then it's hard to get fries to my tastes when they are string style.

I have to admit I had trouble rating this cheeseburger. How much weight do I give a bad bun? It was bad enough that it distracted from the whole experience, but it is just a bun. In the end I gave it some thought and think I came up with a good balance. 

Harvey's - Cheeseburger

Place: Harvey's

Type: Chain

Web Site: www.harveys.ca

Atmosphere: Wood paneled fast food

Burger: Cheeseburger

# of patty's: 1

Type of cheese: Cheddar

THE PLACE

 

Harvey's is Canada's national hamburger chain. Beloved as much as Molson beer, the Toonie and Mountie hats. Loving Harvey's is a national pastime. And what isn't to love? The orange and dark blue decor, the famous orange "Harvey's Trays." Harvey's, Tim Horton's and Swiss Chalet make up the holy trinity of Canadian fast food.

But That is your fathers Harvey's. Today their restaurants are all wood paneled and soft brown. A modern look for a traditional burger. Even the trays are brown these days. Yep the old Harvey's is looking pretty good.

THE BURGER

 

First of all the one thing Harvey's hasn't changed is you get to pick your toppings and they put them on in front of you. So if you don't want onions (and why would you?) there is none of that pesky asking for onions not to be on, you just ignore the onions and they come nowhere near your burger, the way God intended. 

So you've gotten your burger without the onions and you sit in a wood paneled booth, what does the thing taste like.

Here is what I wrote right after my first bite. "Holy crap this is a good burger!"

Why was I so shocked? Because I have a history of not liking Harvey's burgers. They used to be these square pieces of frozen meat that tasted more frozen than burger like. But this was something else. You could taste to burger, there was a good hunk of cheese, the bun didn't crumble under my fingers.

Of course it's not perfect. There is still this frozen taste that most fast food burgers have, but it was minor and not overwhelming. In fact sometimes the actual taste from the burger drowned it out. 

The fries were also good. Crisp on the outside, potato like in the middle. Really very nice.

There are a lot of fast food burger places out there, and every restaurant has their own version with fancy tastes and sauces. The Harvey's cheeseburger is just a plain, good cheeseburger. Nothing fancy. Just good.

So I give Canada's own Harvey's cheeseburger a 3.1. By far the best "fast food" cheeseburger out there.

 

Wimpy's Diner - Wimpy's Famous Hamburger with Cheese

Place: Wimpy's Diner

Type: Chain

Web Site: wimpysdiner.net, wimpysdiner.ca

Atmosphere: 50's Diner

Burger: Wimpy's Famous Hamburger with Cheese

# of Patty's: 1

Type of Cheese: Cheddar

THE PLACE

Wimpy's Diner is a 50's style diner with flat screen TV's. You can sit in booths, tables or at the counter. There are things in booths where you can put in a coin, pick a song at have it play like your own, private jukebox. On the walls are pictures, plaques and tchotchkes. It's a nice, warm atmosphere with nice colors and comfortable seats. Honestly it's a nice place, complete with some guy yelling in the kitchen in a foreign language. That was a nice touch.

THE BURGER

Let's take a look at the Wimpy's Famous Burger with Cheese. 

Look at it!

Look!

Holy crap that's a big burger! I mean the meat to bun ratio is crazy. I like a little more meat than bun but this is really ridiculous. I had no idea where to start eating this thing. The bright side of this bizarre patty was the cheese. Wow look at that cheese! There was a really excellent amount of good old fashioned cheddar cheese on this thing. The bun though was strictly meh. Lightly toasted but it had no strength, you can see my finger penetrated the top and that was just from me putting the bun on the burger. (Below)

Other than that it's a really nice looking set up, just weird with that big patty.

But enough about its size, how does it taste? Well that's the problem. First of all the meat was a little greasy on the outside but a little dry on the inside. Not a lot, just a little. The patty tasted like a burger but a little strange. Spicy. As if the cook used just a little too much pepper. There was a little bit of that frozen patty taste. These flavors mixed with the regular cheeseburger meat taste to create its own unique taste that, while not completely good, was also not completely bad.

The cheese, my God look at the cheese, was darn right tasty. It's impossible not to taste the cheese through the burger and, while it looks like it might be too strong, the cheese was just right. The bun I have already dealt with.

The French fries were really nice and were an excellent compliment to this cheeseburger, and the drink (Iced Tea) came in this really nice glass that I would like to have taken home.

I want to give this cheeseburger an excellent rating, I really do, but the pepper and frozen taste, plus the size of the patty, plus the bun, really took some points off. Plus it wasn't a "cheeseburger" it was a burger with cheese added, which isn't the same. I'm going to give the Wimpy's Famous Burger with Cheese a solid 3 out of 5. I would have this again but I'm not running out to do it today.

Burger King - Double Whopper with Cheese

The place: Burger Kimg

Type: Chain

Web Site: www.burgerking.ca

Atmosphere: Fast Food Joint

Burger: Double Whopper with Cheese

# of Patty's: 2

Special Sauce: Yes

Toppings: Lettuce, Ketchup

THE PLACE

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Burger King is ... Well it's Burger King. It looks like a fast food joint. If someone travels through time from the 1800's and wants to know what a fast food restaurant looks like, show them the above picture. They'll get it right away.

THE BURGER

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First let's talk about the fries. I like Burger King French fries. They are tasty, but I bought a large and got this amount (see above). That is not a large amount of fries. That is, at best, a medium. This is disappointing. In a world where Five Guy's literally fills half a bag with fries, this is just horrible. Come on Burger King, you used to be better than that.

Of course this is not the French Fries Hunter, but I thought it had to be said.

Not onto the burger. The double whopper with cheese has always been a favourite of mine. It's a half decent burger and very sloppy. Look at the above picture. Look how sloppy that is. (The picture doesn't do the burger justice. I photographed it while it was on my lap and had to use a flash. I'm not a photographer. My wife is, but I thought I didn't need her help. Maybe I should put my ego aside next time. But this isn't the My Wife is a Photographer Hunter.) that is one sloppy burger, and I like it.

The first thing I noticed was the Whopper doesn't have that "these patty's are frozen" taste, they tasted like real burger patty's, which is a bonus. The problem is that the flavor of the patty is muted. It's there, but not very strong, that is because the secret sauce is overpowering. It's a trade off, want sloppy then you gotta have a lot of the secret sauce. So maybe it could be a little less sloppy.

The cheese is a big slice of cheddar, but it couldn't be tasted because, again, the secret dauce was overpowering. Maybe they should rename it the Double Secret Sauce burger with Cheese.

Overall I liked it, but the secret sauce is really a problem, a big problem, so I have choice but to give it a :  

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Wally's On Steeles - Wally Burger with Cheese

Place: Wally's on Steeles

Location: 1351 Steeles Ave. E, Brampton

Type: Independent

Atmosphere: 

Burger: Wally Burger with Cheese

#of Patty's: 1

Type of Cheese: Cheddar

THE PLACE

Wally's is a hard restaurant style to nail down. It's modern looking, it's restaurant looking but what is its overall atmosphere? Part of the problem is that Wally's was made from the ashes of another restaurant and had to work within its framework, which is why there is a fireplace in one corner that, otherwise, wouldn't make much sense. Also there is a lot of wood veneer which, a friend pointed out, will probably begin peeling after a couple of years. So is it classic? Is it modern? It's a bit of both. At least it was warm and the tables were clean, really can you ask for more?

THE BURGER

Let's get this out of the way right at the start. This is not a cheeseburger, this is the Wally Burger and then you could add cheese to it. A cheeseburger takes the cheese as a part of the whole and plans for its flavors and cooking. This is a burger with a slice of cheese thrown on for fun. But I'm not going to hold that against them, I just wanted to point out how much something like that bothers me.

The problem with The Wally Burger with Cheese is bigger then a slice of cheese, the problem goes down to its very essence. There is something very bad with the Wally Burger, and I could not put my finger on it. Was it under seasoned? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Was the burger fresh? Honestly can't tell. It tasted like it could be frozen, but maybe not. Possibly over cooked? Well yes, a little.

That there is the problem. The Wally Burger tasted unlike any burger, cheese or otherwise, than I have ever tasted before. It was not a good taste, but it was a strong taste. Even now, with the bennefit of hindsight, I can't figure it out. After about half way through the burger the word "rubber" popped into my head, but it wasn't fully that. Basically it was an altogether new taste and it was bad.

There was a nice slice of cheese, thicker than at most chain restaurants, but the taste was completely drowned out by the taste of the burger. The bun was good. Well toasted and firm enough.

Unfortunately the fries that came with it were soggy and stringy. Also there were no refills on iced tea, what the hell is that?

So listen, I have to be honest and I have to be fair, the burger with cheese was edible but that taste was just terrible so I have no choice but to give The Wally Burger with Cheese 

The Works - Reese PBC

Place: The Works

Type: Chain

Web Site: 

Atmosphere: Industrial

Burger: Reese PBC

# of Patty's: 1

Special Sauce: None

Toppings: Crushd Peanut Butter Cups

THE PLACE

I've covered The Works before, so let's just say it's an industrial look and leave it at that.

THE BURGER

Here is how it works. Take the already great Works burger, stuff it with peanut butter and chocolate and top it it's crushed Reese Peanut Butter Cups. Let that sink in for a moment. It is literally a peanut butter cup burger. The calorie count alone must be amazing. And yes, it's not a cheeseburger. I think the sheer decadence of this burger makes up for the lack of cheese.

But does it work? Kinda, but not completely. The peanut butter cups on top of the burger was a brilliant idea and tastes amazing. Unfortunately the peanut butter and chocolate inside the patty wasn't a good idea. The heat from the patty melts them so much that the chocolate looks and tastes like brown water, and the peanut butter is just a big, liquid mess that you barely taste. 

Fortunately the burger itself was the usual high standards, the bun was great, the fries were above average. If I were in charge I would just put the peanut butter cups on top and leave it at that, but I'm not so here we are.

This is definitely an above average burger, far above average but not as high as the usual fare from The Works. It's a solid 3.7 out of 5.

Also it's not a cheeseburger, but not everything can be perfect. 

BurgerTime, an Appreciation

BURGERTIME, AN APPRECIATION

Released in 1982, BurgerTime was a video game created in Japan by developers Data East for their DECO Cassette System, eventually being translated to English and being released into North American arcades.

The plot, as it were, was that you are playing chef Peter Pepper, who walks through a maze of platforms and over hamburger ingredients while avoiding  Mr. Hot Dog, Mr. Pickle, and Mr. Egg. The object of the game is to complete a number of hamburgers.

The game was popular in the arcades, not Pac Man popular but popular in its own rights. Eventually it was developed for several home consoles and several less successful sequels were made. 

Here is some footage from the original arcade version.

Of course watching is one thing, playing is another. So HERE is a version you can play online with a little more helpful info.

Dave & Busters - Dave's Double Cheeseburger

Place: Dave & Busters

Location: Vaughn, Ontario

Type: Chain

Web Site: www.daveandbusters.com

Atmosphere: Upper class sports bar

Burger: The Double Cheeseburger

#of Pattys: 2

Type of Cheese: Cheddar

Special Sauce: None

Toppings: None

THE PLACE

I don't know how to describe Dave and Busters as a whole, so I'll describe it in pieces. First there is the entertainment area filled with games that cost too much, that dispense tickets, but not enough that you could get anything any good at the ticket redemption place, so either you spend a ton of money to get something that, let's face it, you could have bought for a fraction of what you've spent or you look at that model airplane that costs fifty tickets more than you have but you are out of money.

Then there is a dining area that wants to be fine dining but is nothing more than a sports bar. Sure it looks like you could get creme brûlée but really you can get iced cream and brownies and, of course, cheesecake just like the cheesecake you get anywhere else.

Are you getting the feeling I hated going to Dave and Busters? I really did. But I'm not going to let that get in the way of my cheeseburger, because no matter the place a cheeseburger is so common and easy that even a place that is putting on airs can make a half decent one with it's eyes closed.

THE BURGER

Boy was I wrong.

Let's start at the beginning. I had a choice of the cheeseburger or the double cheeseburger and if one of something is good then two of something must be fan-freaking-tastic.

Boy was I wrong.

Let's take a look at it. It looks kinda ok. I mean the patty looks a little too brown but the cheese is nice and partially melty and the bun is good and toasted. So the meat is probably alright. Looks can be deceiving.

Boy ... Yeah, you saw that coming didn't you.

And the problem is that the picture is exactly, 100% correct. The bun is lightly toasted dream. It held up wonderfully, no finger dents here. The cheese was delightful. Even though I'm pretty sure the description includes the words "processed cheese food" I've never been a cheese snob. 

It's the meat. It was flavorless. And I'm not using metaphors here, I literally tasted nothing but bun and cheese. It didn't help that the meat was dry, over cooked and most likely under seasoned. Really it was like eating water, except water at least elicits a response from the flavor centers of your mouth. I honestly, cannot fathom how this is possible. How do you make a meat patty without any flavor? I cannot wrap my head around this. Even the worst cheeseburger has some flavor. It may not be a good flavor but it is flavor none the less.

The fries ... I'm not sure but they could have been the same string fries I get at the grocery store. It certainly looked and tasted like they might be.

So how do I rate this? Poorly cooked and flavorless meat, which is the "burger" part of the equation, plus a nice slice of cheese and a good bun. I'd give it a 6.6 if the meat wasn't such a big part of things, and this meat took away from everything else. 

So here is how I'm going to do this. I'm giving this cheeseburger a 1 out of 5, and it's based completely on the cheese and bun. Everything else was just terrible, including the service. The slow slow slow service.

I hate Dave and Busters and I will never go back, not even to review any other burger they have.

Super Bowl Special Edition- Alex Guarnaschelli's Super Bowl Double Cheeseburger

I love Alex Guarnaschelli. She is the Food Network personality I most want to be friends with. (Sorry Alton Brown) So when I went looking for a Super Bowl special cheeseburger I was thrilled to find her recipe from the website of People Magazine. It's a huge Double Cheeseburger that I'm afraid to look at let alone try, but I bet it tastes fantastic. Enjoy.

http://greatideas.people.com/2016/02/02/alex-guarnaschelli-super-bowl-double-cheeseburger/

 

Montana's - Canadian Burger Eh

Place: Montana's

Location: 9065 Airport Road, Brampton

Type: Chain Restaurant

Web Site: www.montanas.ca 

Atmosphere: both types, country and western

Burger: Canadian Burger Eh

# of pattys: 1

Special Sauce: Mayo

Toppings: Peameal Bacon

Type of cheese: Cheddar

Added Extra: Apple Butter BBQ Sauce

THE PLACE

Montana's is like a restaurant you would find in the old west, if the old west had air conditioning, piped in music and a debit machine. There is wood, or the semblance of wood, everywhere. The decor cries out "we are in the old west and don't you forget it." 

Also they put paper on the tables and give you crayons so you can play hangman, which is nice.

Also the glasses look like mason jars. I mean who doesn't love that? 

THE BURGER

The Canadian Burger Eh is a single patty burger brushed with apple butter BBQ sauce, topped with a slice of cheddar, two pieces of peameal bacon and a bit of mayo. It looks nice, although you can see it falls down on the burger to bun ratio it's fine on the bacon to bun ratio, which I just made up. It would be hard to not admit that this cheeseburger is tasty, but with the wrong type of tastes.

Yes, the Apple butter BBQ sauce tastes nice, as does the bacon and they mayo. The three of them together are just lovely. The problem is I wasn't able to taste either the burger or the cheese and if you can't taste those then what good is your cheeseburger? Simply put the burger cannot just be the delivery system of the BBQ sauce and the bacon, it has to be part of the meal. And why did this even have cheese at all? There was really no reason since it was buried under the bacon and was invisible taste wise.

The fries were nice, the bun was ok. Really this cheeseburger would have been above average ... Barely. It would have been so much better if I could taste the parts that make the cheeseburger a cheeseburger.

Rating: 2.2out of  5

How To Make a Cheeseburger Cake

Today The Cheeseburger Hunter is thinking about other types of food. Something sweet. Something delicious. And nothing is as sweet and delicious as cake. But what, and stay with me here because this is important, what if we could have a cheeseburger cake?

Well let fantasy become reality.

McDonalds - Cheeseburger

Place: McDonalds

Type: Franchise

Atmosphere: Hipster Wannabe

Burger: Cheeseburger

#of Patties: 1

Special Sauce: None

Toppings: None

Type of Cheese: Cheddar

THE PLACE

We all know McDonalds. So much that I almost feel silly writing this part. Big yellow arches. Garish color scheme. Scary ass clown. It's a part of everyone's childhood and, for some of us, a part of our adulthood. But McDonalds is going through a bit of an identity crises. It seems to want to be some sort of hipster coffee shop instead of a burger place, which is what it is. My local McDonalds actually went so far as to lose in store seating to this  aesthetic. Can you imagine a restaurant actually giving up seats just to appeal to a group of people who won't eat there anyway? Seriously McDonalds, what the hell is wrong with you?

THE BURGER

And here it is, the humble McDonalds cheeseburger. Possibly the most eaten cheeseburger in the world. (Well not this specific one, but you get the idea.) Not very pretty, is it? I mean it's very basic. Meat, cheese, bun, toppings. You will not be arguing philosophy with this burger. And yet there is something about it, something that keeps bringing you back. Probably because it is so simple, most likely because it is so damn easy to get.

When I took my first bite I was taken back to the days when I was a kid and there was only one McDonalds in town and a happy meal cheeseburger was a rare thing. Then I actually concentrated on the taste and ... It ... It wasn't very good.

Sure it tastes like a burger, and you could taste to cheese but there was something in there, maybe it was the taste of a frozen patty but it wasn't too nice. The bun was weak and my fingers went through the top. Honestly put it all together and I can only call it above bland. Certainly not the worse cheeseburger I've ever had but far, far from the best.

I've been using the idea of the McDonalds cheeseburger as my base line when rating cheeseburgers, working on the theory that it was at least a 2.5, but it isn't, not by a long shot. The McDonalds cheeseburger rates nothing more than a 1.0.

And yet I will still eat it, because I have a McDonalds around the corner from me and I am, at my heart, lazy.